According to Peter, “I liked to talk to Dad while he worked in his studio especially when he was doing finishing work on cast pieces because it was quiet work so talking was easy. It was hard to talk to Dad while he worked on the abstract work because he had to move around, use a noisy grinder, or focus while he welded. Anyway, I’m more analytical than Dad. When I was maybe 13, I once asked him how many hours of modeling was required for a typical piece and he told me. I asked how much he paid his models and he told me. Then I asked how many hours it generally took him to do the finishing work but the line of questioning had made him evasive. So I asked how much the foundry charges to cast a sculpture and he asked why I wanted to know. I told him I was calculating his net hourly wage. Dad look up at me and paused, then simply said he didn’t want to know and changed the subject. I never got all of the data needed to calculate his hourly wage, but I’m glad. Dad did not become a sculptor because it paid well. It was a labor of love.”